Concentrater useless?

just as the topic says.. Is there anything a concentrater can do better than a frenzy or ww barb? Im thinking something like 20 points in BO, Shout, Weapon, Conc, rest of the points in bash for more damage.. or maybe max bash instead of shout?|||Pretty much. WW, zerk and frenzy are all better. *I almost forgot: double swing.|||Quote:








just as the topic says.. Is there anything a concentrater can do better than a frenzy or ww barb? Im thinking something like 20 points in BO, Shout, Weapon, Conc, rest of the points in bash for more damage.. or maybe max bash instead of shout?




better doing what? it can do better killing bosses while using a shield than either of the previously mentioned builds. i made one for last season on HC and didnt like it when compared to berzerk, but i recognize that it has its place in the barb toolbox.|||There is nothing better for a 2hand barb than concentration! However its true the way to high levels when you can fully utilize 2h conc with end-game gear is somewhat painful sometimes. Today Id probably frenzy myself to patriarch and then respecc to conc.

Actually Im planning a making another one - a dr/mdr build, shield and a 1h weapon (checking possibilities on both atm) and a defiance merc.|||I wouldn't say it useless.

I'd say its boring. Killing speed wise it lacks seriously behind other builds. Its just a very safe barb build, thats why you see a lot of them on HC.|||Well, too slow and boring to be fun. No fun is no use (not counting a big mean two-hander which can be lots of fun in a party setup with a fanat pali)

While the mechanic certainly makes it safe in some cases, in reality the slower killing speed means you're under fire for longer and thus in more danger.|||I beg to differ. I have a MF concentrator that I'm using through Act I NM right now, and he's been great fun.|||A lot depends on how you enjoy playing.

s far as raw damage goes concentrate can produce some big numbers along with it's obvious defensive bonus.

However, in damage per second it is outdone by frenzy/whirlwind.|||Quote:








A lot depends on how you enjoy playing.

s far as raw damage goes concentrate can produce some big numbers along with it's obvious defensive bonus.

However, in damage per second it is outdone by frenzy/whirlwind.




I have to admit I like a challenge. When I was on Bnet there was a guy I ran into who showed me how to speed level. Well, after several Hell Chaos runs, I was bored. This is why I don't twink characters for the most part either, at least not with uniques across the board. Hell is supposed to be difficult and I've seen a lot of vids on youtube where some dude demonstrates how totally awesome it is to take Hell Baal down in 15 secs. Boring. I guess since I'm older I have more patience now, I don't know.|||Quote:








I beg to differ. I have a MF concentrator that I'm using through Act I NM right now, and he's been great fun.




Could you elaborate a bit on this build please, Mr. Palindrom?