Saturday, April 21, 2012

Best 1 Handed Weapon for WW

I'm making a weapon/shield WW barbarian. I'm thinking of using Arreats + Cham (Can't be frozen), Fort Archon Plate, Verdungos, Stormshield (Not Sure What to Socket This With Yet), Gorerider Boots, 2x Angelic Rings + Ammy (Big AR Boost), Verdungos Belt & Dracul Gloves (Good LL). However, what should I use as a weapon? Beast Zerk, Grief, Ebotdz Col/Zerk?

I know WW can't enact Life Tap, so are there better gloves to use that outweight the Draculs Strength, Life Steal & Open Wounds?|||For WW, its all about weapon speed, so find something you like that balances damage to speed. Good choices include:

Grief

Breath of the Dying

Beast

or a REALLY good rare, but the runewords kinda dominate weapon slots.|||OK, so it would be better to go with a 1 handed axe than 1 handed collosus sword?|||grief in PB(berserker axe if u are rich and like to repair), then the rest.|||I see the topic is a bit old, but anywys it fits my question so I'd rather post here instead of making a new one.

For 1-h WW I guess Grief is better. But for WW with 2 axes, woudln't Grief+Beast be better than dual Grief?

Also since Oath is Eth and Grief is non-eth, wouldn't Oath be comparable and a lot easier to make?|||I'm not 100% sure but I think dual Griefs beats the Grief+Beast combo. A perfect eOath small crescent will do 323 average damage which is less than the worst grief roll. More importantly though, grief has ITD and 20% DS. You'll still own hell but it's not Grief :>

Those Oath rolls can be a ***** though. I was pretty lucky with my two small crescents for my whirler (327 and 309 with 3 mals used), but I've done 9 rolls in balrog blades for my zerker, and have yet to get a roll above 250 -_-|||I did some number crunching and with a decked out Titan WW build with enigma the numbers would be following(it ignores OW and chance to hit though, which makes grief a bit stronger than the numbers here show):
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usage ratio right hand 1:0.7 left hand on average, approximated from durability usage

ED with grief&grief 1 + 7(strength) + 1.68(29 mast) + 1.74(29 ww) + 2.7(24 might) + 0.4(gui socket) + 1.2(loh) + 0.5 (grief demon ed or beast str)=16.22

ED with botd 1 + 7(strength) + 1.68(29 mast) + 1.74(29 ww) + 2.7(24 might) + 0.4(gui socket) + 1.2(loh) + 0.9 (botd ed and 30 str)=16.62

ED with grief&beast 1 + 7(strength) + 1.68(29 mast) + 1.74(29 ww) + 2.7(24 might) + 0.4(gui socket) + 1.2(loh) + 0.5 (grief demon ed or beast str)+1.86=18.08

ED with etomb 1 + 7(strength) + 1.68(29 mast) + 1.74(29 ww) + 2.7(24 might) + 0.4(gui socket) + 1.2(loh) + 0.77 (undead ed/3)=16.49

ED with rare weapon 1 + 7(strength) + 1.68(29 mast) + 1.74(29 ww) + 2.7(24 might) + 0.4(gui socket) + 1.2(loh) =15.72

ED with rare mace 1 + 7.7(strength) + 1.68(29 mast) + 1.74(29 ww) + 2.7(24 might) + 0.4(gui socket) + 1.2(loh)+0.17(undead damage) =16.59

20% CB to 12k life monster at half life:6000*0.2*0.25=300

raw damage with ds & cs and 55 damage from charms(assuming non sup ba on grief and beast to avoid big repair bill, and 37 32020-s)

rare legendary mallet 554*1.89

grief ba 503*1.89

beast ba 231*1.77

rare ba(450 ed, 20 max damage, 2 ohms) 527*1.77

botd gpa 724*1.77

rare CS(450 ed, 20 max damage, ohm and 15/40) 939*1.77

etomb with 4015 and ohm 701*1.77

total damage per 4 frames:

1H weapons

rare lm&rare lm: (1 + 0.7)*554*1.89*16.59=29530

grief&grief: (1 + 0.7)*503*1.89*16.22=26213

rare ba&rare ba: (1+0.7)527*1.77*15.72=24928

grief&beast: 1*503*1.89*18.08 + 0.7*231*1.77*18.08 + 0.7*300=22572

2H weapons

rare CS: 1*939*1.77*15.72=26127

botd gpa: 1*724*1.77*16.62=21298

etomb: 1*701*1.77*16.49=20460




As far as oath, an oath bb as 2h weapon actually does more damage than 2 oath small crescents(ignoring cb and charm damage), as 86.5>49.5*1.7|||Are you summing the ed to demons and undead along with other off-skill ed? That and the ridiculous amount of strength will skew the odds heavily in favour of grief over beast.

As for the oath thing, that's kinda trivial. I won't say anything about your dubious 1.7 coefficient, but any amount of cb will make dual wielding the better choice.|||Quote:








Are you summing the ed to demons and undead along with other off-skill ed? That and the ridiculous amount of strength will skew the odds heavily in favour of grief over beast.

As for the oath thing, that's kinda trivial. I won't say anything about your dubious 1.7 coefficient, but any amount of cb will make dual wielding the better choice.




Try calculating the coefficent yourself, im sure you will find it to be similar(ww until right weapon breaks, compare its dura to left one).

And The demon and undead EDs are both divided by 3. And ridiculous amount of strength: it is damage optimal in pvm, and can get 2.5k life with it which is decent|||Grief berserker axe is best 1h weapon for ww barb. I also go with ss for shield since I want to make a bvb in the future.

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