Hey all I am wondering what kind of barb will be best for pvm. I am thinking a griefz and ss barb is best because of 50% dr and 75% block. Here would be what I am thinking of:
griefz 34%+ ias (I think that hits the break point for ww)
fort
ss 40% ed/15 max damage jewel
6% ll arreats 40% ed/15 max damage jewel
maras
5% ll bk
40/15 dungo
20 dex raven
gores
rends
Stats:
str- enough for gear
dex- enough for max block
vita- rest
energy- none
This is just my opinion for this being the best barb for pvm. I know this sounds too cc for many of you. I want to hear other opinions of what is the best barb in pvm and back up your reason.|||Quote:
pvm. I am thinking a griefz and ss barb is best because of 50% dr and 75% block
First 1) One does not need 50%dr or 75%block in pvm.
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ss 40% ed/15 max damage jewel
-> a 40 ed and 15 max damage = bugged anyways...
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maras
why?
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griefz 34%+ ias (I think that hits the break point for ww)
That BP is for paladins. You actually only need 4% ias in order to hit the BP (34%) with a PB. And a second add to that. A zerker is useless for a PvM barb because of the repairs which will annoy you do death.
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5% ll bk
God...why?
Second) The best is relative. And I don't want to explained why because I am tired of it.
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dual wielding has more hits than 2h or single wielding
And you DO not need the block nor the DR%.|||I personally would choose Frenzy Barb or WW barb.
Frenzy: Easy/fun to use, Fast paced, Good weps, Very Very fast attack rate, high speed ( so no 1 point wonders in Increased Stam or Increased Speed ), also very high dmg if your twinked (based upon gear you decided up there I assuming your twinking)
WW: Fun to use, Alot of hits in small amount of time, Helps with leech, Line 'em up and Take 'em out is really easy/super fun.
Honestly I use "PVP" or "PVB" chars for PVM like Smiters. I personally like a Basher (barb with bash as main skill duh) but I am not sure if it truly is PVM. I'm also if a Basher is even an actual build here... I'll check it out later...|||Max block on a non titan barb in pvm.... aside from the gear, i'd say it's all overkill.
While I'm not a fan of barbs aside from goldfind (and not that much even in that case), pvm wise I dual wield weapons. Basically, short of a bvb I would dual wield really as I find the block unnecessary.|||Quote:
That BP is for paladins. You actually only need 4% ias in order to hit the BP (34%) with a PB. And a second add to that. A zerker is useless for a PvM barb because of the repairs which will annoy you do death.
a set of griefzs lasts a hell cs run and can repair on regular town trip.. cheap too 15k if not superior|||As said above DR and block isn't necessary for pvm and you double your dps by dual wielding. WW is better for general pvm than frenzy but obviously some will disagree. I'll never use an end-game weapons with durability again as the repairing drives me mad so griefz is out imo, but it might bother you less.
grief pb x 2 or eBOTDz/Beastz
highlords
fort/enigma/coh
In pvm coh comes close to fort regarding damage output and the res means you can easily hit max res while using guill's face.
dungo/soe
guill's face/arreats with +ed/max/res/ber/whatever
laying of hands
gores
raven + dual leech/AR/res or 2xravens if you go for BOTD
Might merc with andy's or 15ias guill's face, treachery (for laying down decrip faster) and eth shaeled reapers.|||Rawness here is my answer to your questions:
1. To be sturdy as possible. Why do all good fanat zealots have 50% dr and 75% block in pvm?
2. More damage=better and ed jewels are cc for ww barb.
3. Maras>hlords for resist. You want to max out resist anyways.
4. 34% ias is the breakpoint for a barb using zerk. An extra rangeadder=more hits. Never say repair cost is a problem because thats not true. You get enough gold from travs anyways.
5. Bk is very cc for melee builds and even caster builds.
6. Block and dr way to go for best results.
Do you think I am more for pvp or am I too cc for you?
zrk- Thanks for backing me up with post #5.|||1. Apples and oranges. Fanat zealots are stationary while attacking, have a lot less hp and need less dex to reach max block. You'd also be silly not to make use of a pali shield. Except if you plan on playing solo on players 8 without a merc going max block on a WW barb is just going to limit your killing speed.
2. No one questioned this. He was just reminding you not to use a jewel with both +max and ED in your helm.
3. Hlords>Maras for damage. Resists can be found elsewhere.
4. Not true for you maybe. Range isn't really an issue in pvm imo. It comes down to preference.
5. If you're on a budget maybe but it's hardly the "best". You can get more leech, mana leech, AR and resists on a rare.
6. Dual wield for double damage way to go for best results.|||Repairing axes sucks and I'm not the only one who thinks it... Beastz with a Doomz or Griefz offhand is a novelty that gets old very quickly... What's the point of Goldfinding if most of your loot is spent on repairing?
I'm on Team Rawness/ Hubb... Ind or self repair weps... I run Ubers with Grief/ LW PB on my Frenzy barb... No need for life leach with all the life tap... Fade is an added bonus from the LW...|||the usual laying + highlord adds solid fire and light resist already, so maxing out isnt hard
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Repairing axes sucks and I'm not the only one who thinks it... Beastz with a Doomz or Griefz offhand is a novelty that gets old very quickly... What's the point of Goldfinding if most of your loot is spent on repairing?
what are you talking about its cheap.. and dura: you try using ww with a low dura weapon in classic, THERE it runs out fast(1 fpa ww speed ) expansion is very mellow compared to that lol
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