Wednesday, April 18, 2012

So, I've never played a Barbarian...

... I would like some advice!



I still consider my self "new" to Diablo. My only complete character is a Hammerdin, so I know how to play him. I have many other builds in progress based on gear I've found/traded for with my Hdin.



I want to try a barbarian. So far the gear I have is:



Full Imortal King Set

'Beast' Beserker Axe

2x Up'd Alibabas

'Enigma'

Double Up'd Goldwrap (thanks alphaz)

50mf War travelers

Chance Guards



I want to take advantage of his Find Item skill. I was thinking of making a MF/GF barbarian, but I want to have killing power first off.



I've read nearly every single guide and I just can't come up with a definent build I want. Killing speed is important to me (I play a hammerdin... comeon now ) I was thinking a Whirlwind barb would be the most fun.



Using IK set until I get an Breathe of the Dying in an Ethereal Beserker Axe. Then using Enigma, Beast, Botd, with alibabas on switch for using find item. I figure that War Travs, Goldwrap, Chancies, then either Shako (ptopaz) or Arreats (Ptopaz) I'll test both. I was hoping this would give me plenty of killing power. I think I'll also keep Gore Riders, Steel rends, Verdungos, etc... in stash and possible PvP a bit.



I don't know what to do for skill set-up



20 ww? A lot of guides (and people) say that even 10 is overkill because of the diminishing returns (not to sound all financial)



Other than 20 ww, should I max axe mastery and find item? This still leaves me with 20+ points to play with. So, help me out please |||The standard WW build is max WW, Mastery, Shout, and BO. rest of your points should be spent to cover your gaps, like a few extra points into natural resists to shore up any lack there... if you want after that you can pump find item with no problem. |||Why Max Shout and BO?



Other builds get by with <6 (and +skills) on a CTA, and shout only increases defense, I thought defense wasn't that crucial (especially on a barbarian that will have insane life per vitality point)



Hey, thanks for the information, I just want to know the reasoning behind it, so it makes more sense to me.|||Max BO for more life.

2 x CTA is high price for +2 to skill. 3BO magic swords or javelins are much cheaper.

Shout increases your defence but I think it is not very important. High defence do not protect vs ele damage.

Mastery is crucial skill. It increse your AR (and dmg ofc). AR always is too low.|||So maybe 20 ww, 20 BO, 20 Axe mastery, and 20 Find item? Then I have.... 14 points left to put into one-point wonders (Battle command would be real nice) Maybe a few points in natural resistances. I'm having a hard time hitting max resists in hell on my Hdin, so I assume it will probably be a problem here too.|||Battle Command 1 pt is enough. Next points only increase duration.

With prereq skills you have not too much spare pts. I never had patience to build WW barb over lvl 85 (I think even less, but do not remember) but I think few point in berkserk can help vs PI monsters.|||You'll want at least one hoto on switch for faster horking (using find item), but I'd use two since this is a dedicated MFer. With the amount of +skills you'll have it's really not worth it to max find item as the diminishing returns gets bad.

I'd go

20 WW, 1 Berserk

20 weap mastery, 4x 1 point wonders

1 Battle Cry (use vs bosses)

1 War Cry (stun phys immune mana burn monsters so you can zerk them)

20 BO, 1 B. Command

9 Find Item gets you to lvl 24 and 53% chance. You get 3% more if you max it.

The rest into Shout. You'll get 10 points into it at level 84.

BOTD/Beast is good, but 2xGrief will do quite a bit more damage and its ITD makes AR a non-issue most of the time.|||Quote:








You'll want at least one hoto on switch for faster horking (using find item), but I'd use two since this is a dedicated MFer. With the amount of +skills you'll have it's really not worth it to max find item as the diminishing returns gets bad.

I'd go

20 WW, 1 Berserk

20 weap mastery, 4x 1 point wonders

1 Battle Cry (use vs bosses)

1 War Cry (stun phys immune mana burn monsters so you can zerk them)

20 BO, 1 B. Command

9 Find Item gets you to lvl 24 and 53% chance. You get 3% more if you max it.

The rest into Shout. You'll get 10 points into it at level 84.

BOTD/Beast is good, but 2xGrief will do quite a bit more damage and its ITD makes AR a non-issue most of the time.




Hmm... I'm nonladder, but I do have one grief (in a phaseblade for my smiter-in-progress) I'll have to try it out.

I never know what amulet to use. I would assume Mara's because its +2 skills and resistances, but what about metalgrid? Huge AR and Resists, if I need that sort of thing.|||I'd usually say highlords's, but you'll probably need the resists from metalgrid.|||you could use a grief pb + beast axe. frankenbaba, but would still probably do more damage than beast botd lol

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