Didn't see this one in the sticky so I figured I'd ask here.
Since I love to gamble for rares/crafting bases, I'd like to make a GF barb..I just don't know the gear/skill setup one generally uses for one.
Can someone help me out as to what skills/gear a GF barb uses? Would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks|||http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/s...ghlight=horker
http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/s...ghlight=horker
It's really not that hard of a build, just stack goldfind everywhere. If you go all out with goldfind you wont be able to kill much in hell, but with all the chaos bots you can always just unparty the group and follow them around.|||check out this thread, it's only like 4 threads down from this one
http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/s...d.php?t=776098
Also, this post in that thread on pg 3 was excellent.
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I can share my experience so far with my horker. I started running with it approx. 3 weeks ago. Every time I've played D2 before, I've based my "income" so to speak on MF sorcerer runs (Andariel, Countess, Ancient tunnels, Mephisto, Diablo, Baal etc, the normal stuff), so that's what I've got to compare it with. I'll try to structure this post into 1,2,3 and so on sections to avoid me going on a "wall of text" incoherent rant:
1. Restriction of locations
Council in Travincal. That's pretty much all you should be killing. You're going for gold, and a run here is done in like 1-4 minutes (depending on gear). With 2k+ gold find, you'll be averaging 500k+ gold per run. Nowhere else is as easily accessible + set up this good for jumping around letting your merc do the killing.
2. Item find
Since you'll be running with something like 400+ MF as a byproduct of boosting your gold find, you'll see plenty of rare, unique and set drops. You'll not see the very top treasure class items that Diablo and Baal can drop though, since those TC's aren't available for the council. But, item drop is pretty much just a nice bonus to your runs (It's always fun to see a unique ring and amulet drop though, which does happen quite frequently). All the things you want to gamble for with your money drops in abundance here too... rare rings, amulets, boots, gloves, tiaras. There's also lots of runes, charms, jewels and flawless gems dropping.
3. Change of pace from "normal" MF running
What's burned me out previous times with D2 is the endless MF running with my sorc. Running the council with the barb has saved me from that so far this time around. My initial thought when making it was that I'd have something else to do when I was fed up with normal MF runs. Note that I made this as a rune finder primarily (more on that later). Well, I havn't done 1 MF run with my sorc after I started running the council, and if I do it now, It'd be just to take a break and "change pace" from horking... I guess the ol' switcheroo happened :P
4. Specific item drop experience
It's hard to say how much time I've spent doing these runs, so a time -> drop estimate is virtually impossible. Some days might be 50 runs and some none at all... I'd say an average of 10-15 per day for the last 3 weeks might be as good of an estimate as I can do. I'm far from burned out doing it though, every run is quite exciting, cause there's just always something dropping, pretty much on every damn run. And it only takes a few minutes!
As mentioned, there's a lot of unique and set items dropping. But the fun stuff is the runes, rares, charms and jewels in my opinion. I've not found any good rares yet, but there's lots of jewels dropping, among the highlights was a 40ED/15 max damage jewel (that sold for 3xBer, 3xOhm and 10 ists). Runes drop like crazy... so far I've seen 2xBer, 1xIst, 1xPul, 1xMal and a load of lower runes. I've no idea how many perfect gems I've made from all the flawless that's dropped, but it's becoming quite a bunch. A few GC skillers have dropped, and some SC with resist, life/resist pop by as well from time to time.
5. Gambling
To be honest, gambling is the least fun part for me. After 5-7 runs my chest and inventory is full of gold, and I have to stop to gamble. It's a nuisance as I just want to get back out there hopping around finding stuff. That being said, it is of course where you can find that one item that will make you filthy filthy rich. From all my gambling, I've only found 2 items that's been an upgrade to any of my characters so far... a nice 2java/20IAS rare glove and a nice amazon tiara (which is stoved away now after I got a griffon). There's always the alure of finding something godly though, so it gives inspiration to keep at it.
About what to gamble: I gamble tiara/circlets, gloves, boots and amulets. I think it's pretty common to gamble rings too, but I don't do it (so far). Also, I do not craft... I'm thinking about starting, but not sure when/if I get around to do it.
6. Skill point allocations
I've gone pure horker, so all I can do is jump around. I can't kill anything with my barb on it's own except for maybe a cheese cake, and it'd get all over my feet!
20 Battle orders
1 Battle command
20 Find item
20 Leap
All the rest is divided between Natural resistance and Increased speed.
(my only attack is... well... "attack", which of course is never ever used)
If I did a rearrange, all I'd change would be to put 1 in Natural resistance and then max Increased speed... then put all leftover skills into Natural resistance as kind of a skill trashbin :P I don't even think I've done any of the skill quests with this char... As I leeched ballruns until lvl 90, skill points are pretty much in abundance (currently lvl 93).
7. Gear
Most gear has been addressed in this thread already, so not going to go into that too much. The only real headache I had was setting up my mercenary.
I've landed on a Wealth body armor, Crown of Thieves socketed with 15% IAS jewel and an ethereal Thresher Infinity runeword. Now, if the merc's kill speed had been too slow, I'd heavily consider putting a Fortitude runeword body armor on him, but the kill speed is great... I'm more worried about getting temp banned than having him kill even faster. I'll probably put a Lem in the crown of thieves soon instead of that IAS jewel... although it shouldn't matter much either way.
As you might have read earlier in the thread, I was looking around to find a good weapon for him. I started out with a bonehew (not even ethereal) with some ED jewels, and it was really doing surprisingly well... it even killed Physical immunes, albeit not very fast. I could definately gain some speed though, so I tried an eth crescent moon runeword. It performed ok too, but still too slow for my liking. I switched to an eth obedience runeword, and the kill speed definately picked up. But, I hated having several corpses being destroyed by the cold damage every run. I decided to go for something more expensive, and rolled a whooping 324% ED infinity (325% max)... It suddenly felt like I was killing in nightmare difficulty setting. Note that the ED on infinity is not the most important thing, the Conviction aura is the real hero here. A high ED is always good though
I'm currently leaving Physical immunes behind, but I'll be getting a gavel of pain on switch to see if they can be killed at a reasonable speed too.
Oh yeah, a last bit of advice regarding gear. I find that an amulet with teleport charges is almost a must have. It makes life soooo much easier using it to place your mercenary correctly, especially if there's physical immunes there... when the mercenary starts hitting them, just teleport close to some other council member. I'd choose a teleport amulet over a gold find amulet any day, it really helps a lot, both for ease of play and for general killspeed.
8. In conclusion
All that being said, I'm still running primarily for rune drops and not all that other stuff. All that is just bonus upon bonus for me. If you like/need the feeling of finding the actual items you're after yourself, you'll want to go with normal MF running. The council running is in my opinion a faster way to wealth, and you'll rely more on trading to get the items you're after.
I guess that's enough said, hope it gives answers to at least some of your questions.
I'll leave you with a few links that I found very helpful:
The post that made me want to run the council in Travincal, and the whole reason I started doing it in the first place: http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/s...d.php?t=752554
A perfect fit for what I was looking for to run the council: http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/s...d.php?t=694333
Also, having a good understanding of what makes a rare item good is very important. This is a nice resource for that: http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/s...d.php?t=685246
Edit: Fixed a few typos and added a few small things here and there.
Edit2: I just read your other thread, and I see you're not going for a pure horker like me. Guess I should have read that before typing up all that :P Oh well, hopefully someone else will find it useful
Although, atheri's build would be best suited if you play on Bnet and you're well-tweaked. I'm playing Single-Player hardcore and only somewhat tweaked (I was very generously given the IK set and a Hone Sundan). I'm debating between WW or Conc, but it's starting to look like I'll just use both - although I can always respec later on.|||Quote:
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http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/s...ghlight=horker
It's really not that hard of a build, just stack goldfind everywhere. If you go all out with goldfind you wont be able to kill much in hell, but with all the chaos bots you can always just unparty the group and follow them around.
Thanks for the links.
One of those seems to be a pure MF barb which isn't what I'm looking for, I'm really just after the gold. Also his skill choice seems...questionable. I don't really agree with maxing iron skin and natural resistance..seems like a lot of wasted skill points.
The other guide is a little better, but how does one kill monsters in hell using 2x ali baba's? Maybe I'm not understanding how a GF barb works, but wouldn't you want a fairly high damage weapon so you can kill monsters? Then have the rest of you gear focused on goldfind? I understand 2x lem'd ali baba's is alot of goldfind, I just don't see how you can kill anything with them.|||Quote:
Thanks for the links.
One of those seems to be a pure MF barb which isn't what I'm looking for, I'm really just after the gold. Also his skill choice seems...questionable. I don't really agree with maxing iron skin and natural resistance..seems like a lot of wasted skill points.
The other guide is a little better, but how does one kill monsters in hell using 2x ali baba's? Maybe I'm not understanding how a GF barb works, but wouldn't you want a fairly high damage weapon so you can kill monsters? Then have the rest of you gear focused on goldfind? I understand 2x lem'd ali baba's is alot of goldfind, I just don't see how you can kill anything with them.
The ali-baba's are on switch. I suppose you would switch after you kill everything and you're just horking for gold. The items you have take effect for the hork, WHEN you hork the corpse, not when you killed the monster. So you can add MF/GF/etc after you kill monsters and it will all count for horking.
Here's another guide I liked a lot.
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Synonym's Extra Gold Whirl Wind Barbarian
Revised and written by: Synonym
Table of contents
1.Introduction
2.Build Overview
3.Compare & Contrast
4.Stats Distribution
5.Skill Distribution
6.Gear Setup
7.Szacko's Stats
8.Gameplay
9.Facts Learned
10.Conclusion
Introduction
Hello, my name is Lee and I would like to share my experiences with EG barbs generally, more specifically the EG whirler. I have experimented with plenty of builds before, making over 5 versions of EG barbs, creating hybrids of EG/MF, pure EG and more. I've tested many skill setups which focused on Leaping , War cry stunning, and overall supportive. This last build I've made, which proved to be the most efficient, takes the barbarian from the defensive/dependant role to the offensive stance, providing with a faster ,more versatile, funner, more aggressive, and overall better type of EG barb.
Why even make an EG barb, you ask? There are a few methods of amassing wealth/profit inside the game (leaving D2jsp methods such as Ladder Slasher, Graphics Art etc..), such as:
-Crafting
-MF'ing
-Gambling
While running MF runs, I find myself bored too quickly and too tired of identifying 1000 crap items just to find that 1 decent one within.
While crafting can provide with gz items, it's almost identical to MF'ing. You have to craft 1000 crap items just to have lady luck shine upon you once for a decent item. Plus you will need to buy massive craft-material packs, which just drains your time & effort.
Gambling is the whole purpose of the EG barb, however you can also offer gold for FG. Normal ratio is 1FG : 1000000 ingame gold. Instead of MFing for the rare rings / amulets or just finding a possibly decent magic coronet/circlet, Anya provides me with all of those in a few gamble-window-resets. I end up having a full gold pile of 3.27mil in just 3 runs or so, giving me a chance at finding great items at short expense and at easy accessibility. I'm not saying MF / Crafting are not good ways to make profit. I'm simply explaining my favorite method based on my experience with all of the method aforementioned.
Abbreviations:
Baba/Barb = Barbarian
Merc = Mercenary
EG = Extra Gold / GF = Gold Find <-- Same thing
MF = Magic Find
Hork = Usage of the Find Item skill
WW = Whirl Wind
WC = War Cry
Res = Resist/Resistance
IAS = Increased Attack Speed
FRW = Faster Walk/Run
FCR = Faster Cast Rate
CB = Crushing Blow
Phy = Physical
LAEK = Life After Each Kill
MAEK = Mana After Each Kill
Zerk = Berserk
PB = Phase Blade
BA = Berserker Axe
Overview
The EG whirler is a unique EG barb type that kills the council members located in Travincal all by himself, thus making him non-merc-dependant. The EG barb is the offensive / main killer and uses Whirl Wind and Zerk as his main skills of attack. This build excels in fast dual-wield killing speed, massive gold drops and an all-around EG item setup, except the main weapons. The EG barb is self sustaining, life leeching (mana too if your rare items can have the stats), hard hitting and simply the supporter & offensive characters merged into 1.
This is a PvM build and should not be considered PvP-wise by any means. In this guide I will try to variate as much as I know about the selection of items to make your setup out of, for your convenience.
Compare & Contrast
Why did I choose the EG-WW over the well known WC stunner/leaper support EG barb?
Let us reflect both sides, and see pros and cons:
EG WC Stunner/Leaper
Pros:
-Cheap gear
-Continuous stun/kb effect from constant leaping / wc'ing.
-Able to use the GF swords / alibaba swords at all times, gaining from the kill gold drops as well as from the horking.
-Able to use Cta 3 + Hoto / 2x3wc spears on switch, giving him +6-7 BO on switch, which adds up to barb's / merc's overall HP.
Cons:
-Merc dependant. If the merc dies, it's a complete annoyance if he dies and you have to return to town just to ressuect him. This can happen alot due to inability to control the merc specifically (unless you're strapping on an Enigma), which can cause the merc to die due to massive amounts of Hydras fire-bolting him, and if there's a Conviction mod on a super-boss in the midst of them, your merc is a few fire bolts away from obliteration. Another annoying factor would be the phy immune mod that can also spawn on a council super-boss, which will slow your entire EG time run rate if the merc chooses to be hooked on hitting him relentlessly and without actual damage output.
-Pot drainer. The EG supporter uses a lot of the WC skill to keep the council immobilized, thus making him drink mana pots like crazy. HP-wise, he also drinks a respectable amount of red pots as well, making your entire focus be distracted, because if you do not tend to your merc, it might die due to low HP.
-Slower killing rate. The merc's jab attack is powerful, but it's single targeting and can be useless against phy immunes, as we've seen above. No versatility, there is a dependence on phy damage only.
EG WW/Zerk
Pros:
-Self control. You are the killer, not the merc. You don't have to hassle with him to hit the right target or draw him away from the conviction aura boss, surrounded by hydras, or force him to hit other council mobs other than the phy immune he seems to get attached to every single time there's one.
-Faster killing speed. The Whirl Wind is an AoE attack, going through many, if not all, the mobs at once, delivering the same damage output to each and every one of them in the same speed it takes the merc to do so on 1 council member. Thus making your overall run time rate faster, allowing you to do more runs in your valuable time. However, you cannot cross the 20game/Hour threshold, so be patient when rejoining a new game.
-Versatile damage sources. The EG-WW doesn't need to be frustrated by phy immune mod, or even stone skin which can prove very annoying to kill with phy damage. Simply start bashing away with Zerk skill and after 2-4 hits the phy immune is splashed on the ground.
-No merc needed. Indeed, solo is the Szacko. My merc is only for show. Sure it helps here and there but completely unnecessary in matters of doing the EG Travincal run. Completely dependent.
-Self sustaining. I will detail on the items that I'm using further on, having life leech and LAEK to support me at all times. I simply don't drink red pots. Although I occasionally drink a mana pot due to 0% mana leech on my gear setup. Hopefully your gear will provide with at least 5% for self-sustaining yourselves.
Cons:
-More costly. You will be using either dual Grief or high ed dual Breath of the Dying Ethereal Berserker Axes. Those are the only "pricey items" in the gear setup.
-Has to kill with main weapons. No option for kill-gold-drops with the 450gf swords or alibabas. Not a big loss though, I still do between 700-900k per run. Sometimes even 1mil.
Coming to a conclusion, we see that the Szacko EG-WW is faster, more aggressive, self-controlling and better overall in EG-running than the EG-Supporter/WC stunner-leaper build.
Stats Distribution
Strength: Enough to use gear.
Dexterity: Enough to use gear.
Vitality: The rest of the points.
Energy: None.
Skills Distribution
Combat Skills Tree
Whirlwind - 20 hard points.
Berserk - 1 hard point.
+1 hard point to every pre-requisite skill.
Combat Masteries Tree
Sword Mastery - 20 hard points. Since I took upon myself to use dual Grief PB's, I was forced to max this mastery. If you choose to have them in BA's, max the appropriate mastery, in this case - Axe Mastery.
Increased Stamina - 1 hard point. Pre-requisite to Increased Speed.
Increased Speed - 1 hard point. 1 point wonder, makes a total of 7 skill points passive skill, adding up to 30-32frw. That helps on non-Enigma/FCR builds such as EG barbs.
Iron Skin - 1 hard point. Pre-requisite to Natural Resist.
Natural Resist - 1 hard point. After all the other necessary skills have been maxed, try to max this skill last. At level 92, I have level 15 Natural resist. +skill +BC = Level 21 Natural Resist, providing me with +68% all resistances. This is very crucial.
Warcries Tree
War Cry - 1 hard point. This is up to you. Only if you feel a good 2 second stun can help you out here and there, since sometimes the council members have the mana burn mod, which negates your ability to WW, even though you drink a mana pot they still keep hitting, burning off the mana pot's rejuvenation. If you see no point to this, since I found I rarely use this skill, save up this hard point +3 other pre-requisite skill points and add up to your Natural Resist. However, I like to keep all options open, hence I have myself the WC skill just in case..
Shout - 1 hard point. Prebuff (though quite a meaningless one) + Pre-requisite for Battle Orders and Battle Command.
Battle Orders - 20 hard points. This is your biggest buff skill.
Battle Command - 1 hard point. +1 all skill. Preferred to be used before Battle Orders to further increase the benefit of the skill.
Find Potion - 1 hard point. Pre-requisite to Find Item.
Find Item - Enough hard skill points to reach a total of 18 skill points = 50% chance. Main horking skill. To be used after all the council members have been destroyed. No need to max it, only get it to a 50% chance. My gear setup allowed me to invest only 12 hard points into this skill, +6 from BC/+sk items, ending up in a level 18 Find Item.
Gear Setup
I will list several options for every item slot, starting from the best possible choice, IMO, and ending up in the least efficient, yet viable option.
Helm
#1- Crown of Thieves. This helm has it all: Life Leech for the WW, +25 dexterity to help out reaching the Grief PB high dexterity requirement (136), +50 life, +35 mana, +33% fire resistance and up to 100% possible EG. I recommend socketing it with a Cham rune to avoid being frozen, which reduces your overall walk/run speed, as well as berserking ability (you will often see PI's with HF aura or at least Cold Enhanced attacks).
#2- Immortal King Helm. This is the supporter's favorite item, and a pretty decent overall helm. +2 warcries, +87% fixed EG, up to 40mf and 2 open sockets. I recommend socketing it with Cham and Lem runes. CNBF mod is vital.
#3- Tarnhelm. Yes, this little cheap item still has a viability here. +1 to all skills, 25-50% MF and 75% EG. Socket it with Cham.
#4- Szacko. Even though not to be used in any EG build, Szacko >>
Armor
#1- Wealth rune word. Make the runeword in any armor you'd like. Lowest req = the better. Best EG stacking armor in the game. +10 dexterity to further help out reaching 136 dex, +2 MAEK (not really a wow factor, but cute), +300% EG, +100% MF. Simply the best.
#2- Enigma. I wouldn't recommend this unless you don't like walking a few meters from the way point. However, it's a great FRW armor, adding up to 45% FRW, +2 all skills, teleport skill, %MF bcl, +14 LAEK, 5% HP increment and 8% DR. Still, nothing like Wealth.
Weapons (Make sure when choosing your base weapon, to know what it is, and max the appropriate mastery in the in the Combat Masteries Tree)
#1- Dual Grief made in PB's. The best possible weapons to have on the EG whirler. Get at least 34 ias on them and the highest +damage you can afford. I chose PB over BA because of no durability which needs to be repaired. Anyone who played smiters / ww barbs with Grief Ba will say how much a pain it is to repair them at low durability.
#2- Eth Tomb Reaver 3 sox. 200-280% Enhanced Damage, 150-230% Damage To Undead (council), 60% Increased Attack Speed, 250-350 To Attack Rating Against Undead, All Resistances +30-50, +10-14 Life After Each Kill, and even some mf add. Even has a cute 10% reanimated mod. With very good stats, having 3 sox and being eth, this could match up to dual Grief PB's. Should be socketed with Lem runes.
#3- Dual Edeath made in Zweihanders. 300-385% Enhanced Damage each, 40% Bonus To Attack Rating total, 14% Mana Stolen Per Hit total, 100% CB total, 85-100% DS total!
#4- Dual BoTD made in ethereal Ba's. Great LL/ML, granting you all the life/mana you'll need. +60 total attributes is very nice too.
#5- Dual Oath made in Zweihanders. 50% IAS each, 210-340% Enhanced Damage each, Prevent Monster Heal.
Gloves
#1- Chance Guards. No point posting other gloves, since none match these. 200% EG + up to 40% MF.
Rings
#1- Dual Dwarf Star rings. No point posting other rings, since none match these. 100% EG, +40 life, and up to 15% fire absorb.
Boots
#1- Doom Blazers. 119% EG boots with some resistance and FRW. Permed ones cost a lot. Yet had to post the best first. This really isn't necessary to have.
#2- Rare FRW/FHR/Resist/EG boots. Mine, for example, are: 30% FRW, +14 mana, 16% LR, 32% FR, Half Freeze Duration, +73% EG.
#3- Infernostride. Old goodies. +20% Faster Run/Walk, +10% to Maximum Fire Resist, Fire Resist +30%, up to 70% EG.
Belt
#1- Rare FHR/Str/Life/Res/EG belt. Mine, for example, are: 24% FHR, 41% Def, +60 life, 16% LR, 27% FR, +71% EG. You can even find a crafted belt with open wounds / LL if you wish.
#2- Goldwrap. Old goody. 10% Increased Attack Speed, 30% Better Chance Of Getting Magic Items, 50-80% Extra Gold From Monsters.
Amulet
#1- Rare amulet with all baba or wc skills (1-2)/Stats/LL/ML/Res/EG. Mine, for example, are: 1 to all Baba skills, +2 minimum damage, +12 Dexterity, +13 stamina, +26% FR, +70% EG.
Switch Hands
#1- 6 sockets dual crystal swords or war axes. Lowest req = the better. Socket both of them with 12 Lems. Both swords/axes will yield 900% EG all together, making them the highest EG contributing items in your setup. Use when horking.
#2- Dual Alibaba swords.(2.5 Per Character Level) 2-247 % Extra Gold From Monsters (Based On Character Level), + (1 Per Character Level) 1-99 % Better Chance of Getting Magic Items (Based On Character Level), +15 To Mana, +5-15 To Dexterity. Socket them with 2xLem runes each.
Inventory
-20 Stats Barb Torch
-20 Stats Annihilus
-Highest EG Gheeds you can get your hands on.
-7x 40% EG Grand Charms. You can find or buy some with +wc skills, but those are simply overpriced and unnecessary. I use rand / clean ones.
-7x 10% EG Small Charms. You can find or buy some with +11% fire resistance, but those are simply overpriced and unnecessary. I use rand / clean ones.
-Tp Tome
-Cube
Mercenary
Really not necessary, I just built one for fun. Should hire a Nighmare Offensive-oriented type for the might aura.
Helm - Eth/Non Eth Crown of Thieves (I actually put 40/15 inside mine to help him reach the next IAS break-point), Andy's Face, Guillaume's. Either socketed with a Lem rune.
Weapon - Eth BoTD Great Poleaxe, WP, CA or even Thresher, Eth Tomb Reaver 3x Lemmed, Eth Bonehew Dual Lemmed, Eth Lemmed +4 sk Arioc's Needle.
Armor - Eth/Non eth Fortitude, Treachery, Wealth, CoH.
Szacko's Stats (Hell Difficulty)
Overall Stats - Szacko has:
-993-1055 Berserk damage (Envenomed)
-956-1016 WW damage (Envenomed)
-952-1012 WW damage (Envenomed)
-4600 HP
-470 Mana
-Max fire res in Hell difficulty. Cold - 61% , Light - 58%, Poison- 26%.
-178% total MF
-2400% total EG
-3,270,000 Gold holding capability at level 92.
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Gameplay
The entire run does not have to constitute of simply killing/horking council. Don't forget you will have at least 150% MF, a respectable amount to consider other areas such as Pindle, Shenk, Eldritch.
Do not forget you're only allowed 20games/1Hour and that if you rejoin games too fast due to fast council runs (30-45 seconds per run), you will eventually D/C.
Hence, either wait a few minutes ingame and wait for a proper amount of time to pass before your next run or you can try the areas listed above.
I will detail on my specific runs, in a chain order of events:
1. Starting at Act 5, go through the town's way point to Frigid Highlands. Cast BC/BO/Shout. Travel north to Eldritch, leap or WW your way to him, Zerk him (I recommend Zerk on left click side, for convience). If you hadn't been envenomed yet, keep Zerking his minions, you'll eventually be envenomed. WW the rest, switch to EG swords and hork Eldritch, at least. Hork him at least. After doing so, travel south to Shenk, leap / WW your way to him, Zerk him. Shenk cannot be horked, unfortunately.
2. Travel back to Act 5, go through Anya's portal (keep it open by never completing Nihlathak's quest), travel all the way straight to Pindleskin, WW through him and his minions until they're all down. If he happens to be phy immune, Zerk him. Hork him at least. Travel back to Act5 through the red portal or through your town portal tome.
3. Travel through the waypoint to Act3 Travincal. Recast BC/BO/Shout if you feel necessary. Travel to the Council's harboring place. WW all of them to death. Zerk first priority for conviction/phy immune/stoneskin/mana burn mod-enhanced super-bosses. Cast WC if you want every now and then for a quick stun. Hork all the councils after every mob has died and all hydras have been extinguished. Cannot afford to be interrupted while horking, because if it does get interrupted, the horking will succeed work 90% of the time.
All of this should take 2-3 minutes. Enough for a run. Total output - 700-900k gold. Sometimes 1mil+, and yet sometimes 600-650k. It's all about luck.
Facts Learned
Throughout experimenting and overall gameplay experience, I've found out some known/basic facts about EG barbs and their overall interaction in the game, and some unknown ones as well..
1) While horking a corpse and being kb'd in the process, hork is applied to the corpse but never truly works. Body never throws out items. This has been tested over 100 runs.
2) Wc stun - cannot be applied to stone skin + extra strong feat super bosses (such as council) - hasn't been tested fully.
3) Curses cannot apply to "Possessed" champions. Haven't checked "Ghostly" mod thoroughly enough yet.
4) Hork cancels resurrection - TRUE. However it does not hold the "Slain Monsters Rest In Peace" Mod! Ex: Hork cancels defiled warrior's revivification - WRONG. After numerous attempts I was able to watch a horked defiled warrior to be return from the dead. This is a ratio of 1 to every 20 full pindle runs. However, 1 is enough to disprove the "Slain Monster Rest In Peace" Mod which is claimed to hold true for horking.
5) As a result of #4 - Double revived monsters cannot be horked. After a defiled warrior has fallen / revived / fallen again - Had it been horked in the process it cannot be horked more than once. This is basic stuff but it applies to pre-horked revived Defiled Warriors.
6) Another basic caution - Hydra Council fire does not unleash %ctc. From experience I've discovered the fade %ctc from treachery is crucial to be unleashed before dealing with Travi (this is in case you really want a merc to be with you, and he has a Treachery setup), especially if Ismail hones conviction. Biggest problem was that he sometimes honed phy immunity + conviction. Killing that takes a good 60 seconds, which your merc does not have. The firey hydras will consume him within 1-2 seconds, Bo'ed or not. I've found out the firebolts from hydras do not count as actual strikes when regarding %ctc unleash, because they are counted for as "Minions", much like %light damage does not apply to traps since they are also considered "Minions"..
Special Thanks to Faelwen and to JayPee for providing some answers / opinions while I was experimenting
Conclusion
To conclude things, I recommend all EG barb planners to get the EG whirler setup and prefer the WW/Zerk over the boring, less efficient, slightly cheaper though WC stunner / supporter. For a small price to pay (Dual Grief's, namely), you will gain less frustration and more fun.
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=38567700&f=87|||That one looks much better, thanks.
I think I will base my build around synonym's guide.
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