Arreat Socket Questions

Hello there everyone, got my barb up to 89 (Close to 90)

I'll give a breakdown of his gear / skills

Since I don't have immediate access to my character I'll guestimate stats

Str: 0 points base, at ~190 with gear

Dex: Max block, with gear its at 203~ or so. whatever the lowest needed at 89

Vit: Everything else, over 410 or so now (Almost 5k life with BO)

Gear:

Helm: 200ed open socket Arreats (No idea what to put in it)

Ammy : Highlords

Body: Mage Plate Enigma 1090~ def

Belt: Arachnid Mesh

Gloves : LoH

Boots: 47 War Travs

Ring1: 20 dex raven

ring2 : 18 str 2 dex 10%fcr +~60AR few resists ring

Main weapon: 40/360 Grief PB

Shield: Stormshield (Socketed with a Shael)

Switch weapons = 2x 32 Hotos

Charms:

3x Warcry Charms (12% fhr, 40 life, 36 life)

Gheeds (105,36,15)

19/13 BTorch

19/14/10 Anni

10/64/12 Grand Charm

4@res 5% FHR sc

+2dex 5@Res sc

3/12/3%r/w

2/19/5%fhr

Resists :

Fire/Light/Cold = 75

Poison = 53

Alright, so my questions are pretty simple I think but I'm not sure what to go about doing.

1) What should I put in my arreats? I've thought of alot of different options. I've got nearly anything rune wise at my disposal but I'm not sure if I should go for some form of an ED or Max jewel? No idea which one I should get. Resists, +Life or ? Or is poison worth adressing? no issues with it really besides vipers down in halls|||Why no goreriders?|||I like the +damage and MF better for my play style. This barb is my rusher/key runner and boss runner so I enjoy the added drops. I dont really need anymore DS between the highlords and sword mastery and the 15% CB really isn't needed in my opinion when most things go down in a few swings anyways.

Just never really been a fan of gores for the most part, not sure why.|||Personally I like ED%/Dex jewels. ED% for multiplier of grief damage, and extra dex for block as you lvl.|||i use cham. frees up ring slot.|||Quote:








i use cham. frees up ring slot.




I thought about this, but I would have to find a +20 dex ring with over 200 AR + other stats to come out ahead in the deal. Since I'm using the 20 dex for max block and the added 200AR is very nice.

The ring would probably be just as hard to find as the 40ed / dex jewel|||Here's a few other options, based on what you think your biggest weaknesses are in your build:

Um rune for resists

Sol rune for DR (helps on Nili key runs against those pesky vipers)

Ith rune for Damage to mana

topaz or ist for MF

...if none of those really help you out, then just wait for a decent ED jewel and socket it. save a few hel runes in-case you change your mind.|||the upside is you can always remove what you put in.|||No one said ber rune yet, so ber.|||Thanks for all the feedback

Mana isn't really and issues since the merc has an eth insight.

Neither is DR since im at 43% or so already, don't really need to cap out for PVM

Some ideas i've been thinking about were either going with an ED jewel when i could find one or a jah for the 5% increased life. Seems like all choices are down the middle with no one single one standing out as a need

best base weapon for ebotd polearm

i have a 6 socket eth giant thresher and was thinking of making botd with it. but all i ever here about is botd warpikes. should i hold out until i get one of those instead? giant thresher is faster but the warpike does more damage... im planning on making a concentrate barb with it.

with the GT i can hit the last breakpoint possible with the weapon alone. and with the warpike i'd need an extra 90 ias. which makes my gear selection more limited. something i dont like the idea of.|||Great Poleaxe

Ghost spear

These are good weapons..... Basically any Elite pole/Spear that hits the 4 Frame whirlwind breakpoint unless you want listed damage then go with Warpike but the other weapons are likely to have higher undisplayed damage.

Personally Id go with Ghost spear.|||Why would you use anything but a zerker for a botd? unless its for a merc|||Because he might be making it for pvm and a shield isnt needed? More damage and a larger range not to mention a much higher style point for not following the crowd.

Then the most obvious question.

Why not?|||Quote:








Because he might be making it for pvm and a shield isnt needed? More damage and a larger range not to mention a much higher style point for not following the crowd.

Then the most obvious question.

Why not?




because its worthless.. if he wants to make another character and trade his botd away no one will want it. just put it on a merc dont use it yourself

and to get more damage just go ebotz and beast = style points for bear form and more dmg|||I had no problem trading mine away granted a lower price than the usual EBOTD but it was traded in and out within 10 mins in pubbys. Ive used both the set ups and see very little difference.

I say hurray for not following the crowd....

One mans trash is another mans gold........

Oh and - Style points for being just like everyone else...



He can mule it over as its a very effective merc weapon so it wont be wasted if he gets bored with the guy.

To end with,

Its a that thresher would be good candidate for BOTD if you want to spend it.|||dont listen to whyhack. aim for great pole axe, which is usefull also for werewolves (cheaper alternative for eth 3 sox tomb).

i sold mine 39x ed for value of around 12-13 hrs|||well... i went with the giant thresher.... i got almost the lowest roll possible (357 ed) at least it swings fast |||For a barb using a ebotd polearm go for great poleaxe as vknez was just saying.|||Quote:








well... i went with the giant thresher.... i got almost the lowest roll possible (357 ed) at least it swings fast




Damn shame you are on the wrong side of the roll. Haha i know the feeling about have a good item to make a rw in, but then get adviced to do something else =/. However i am going to not make my Oath (ok not comparable with zod / vex but ) in a small cresent and walk around with cool axes but make it in a eth cryptic + phase LB. whooo +)

Ow one thing about polearm, no Frenzy =? haha

arreats or guillaumes for a solo barb?

I'm trying to solo hell on my first time through Diablo 2, wondering whether Arreats or Guillaumes is better for soloing, and the same for LoH/Draculs.

Thanks.|||Both helms work well but if you find a way to get mass resist guillaume's is a very good choice. Loh if you are ww and dracs if you are frenzy.|||I'd say it really depends on the build, but I believe i remember you having a WW barb?

Arreats is the king barb helm unless your a singer looking for something amazing. Has alot of good stats for every build.

If you really need the CB ( for running bosses with lack of damage) i'd say guil, but I doubt you'd need this. I'd go for arreats.

LoH if you need the ias to hit a breakpoint or the % damage to demons/fire resits works well with you place style.

Dracs if you could use the STR and the life-tap. Again dracs are normally for ubers that you cant leech off of any other way to keep you from dieing.

Solo pvm Arreats/LoH would be a good combo, for running ubers you see more Dracs/Guil combos|||Okay, thanks. Frenzy by the way, should have mentioned that.|||i like Dracs but Loh is totaly useable. i like Gface um'ed over arreats, especially if your using grief or other CB lacking weapons.|||Quote:








i like Dracs but Loh is totaly useable. i like Gface um'ed over arreats, especially if your using grief or other CB lacking weapons.




Ya for me its all about balancing stats. If you low on CB, throw on Guilliams. If your good with CB (from weapon or boots or whatever), then arreats. Or do both, have arreats on for general use, and throw on Guil if you find killing the boss a little slow.

My WW barb uses arreats and gets his Cb for general use from goblin toes. If I need more then 25% (say i want to do baal runs and speed it up), i have a guil in the stash. don't really need more then 25% though, hes a high damage build, most things aside from baal die fast enough for me to not worry.|||oh and dracs on a ww barb are totally fine also, its a little off topic but lots or babas in pvp use them, and if it works in pvp it will be just as affective in pvm. if yer ww and want to exploit the Lifetap, toss on a fury ba, proc the lt and whirl away.|||As said above: dracs on frenzy, loh on WW. I always use um'd guills as the extra CB is awesome, especially at players 1. Depending on your other gear it can be tough to get your res to max and the other mods on arreat's is nothing to scoff at.|||Hum.. I dont like lifetap in pvm... I prefer Loh/Gface and a exciting fight against a pack of dead lords

This is the strategy of my new frenzy barb with eoath smallcresent, upped butchers, coh, gore and string.

Ok. I pot sometimes

Respec help: min requirements

Hi all. So after a long time of saving up I have managed to get what I was after for my end game barb gear. Previously, I had a lot of points in dex to enable me to equip phase blades before I got an anni (16 stats) and Btorch (17 stats) and my second ravenfrost (19dex).

My question is: when I respec how low can I go with strength and dex stats? Do I go for the minimum hard points to equip gear using the points from the gear. Is there any danger in using the gear points in this way? I have heard of people losing items if they die. Also, is there a particular order to put gear on.

I was told in game yesterday that others can't see my helmet because I use strength from items to equip arreats.

Thanks for any help or advice!|||Afaik there's no danger in the way you're doing it. The problem comes when you use other items (like a strength ring or on your bo swap) to put on your main gear, then take them off. When you pick up your body you'll not have enough strength to equip everything so some items will remain in your body. Die again and you'll create a new body with your other items. If you then quit you lose everything that was in the body when you died first time round. Or something like that.

Just to be sure you can ask someone to kill you before spending anything in vit, then pick up your body to see if it works. If so, shift-click vit :>|||That's great advice. Thanks a lot!

Best Barb for PvM

Hey all I am wondering what kind of barb will be best for pvm. I am thinking a griefz and ss barb is best because of 50% dr and 75% block. Here would be what I am thinking of:

griefz 34%+ ias (I think that hits the break point for ww)

fort

ss 40% ed/15 max damage jewel

6% ll arreats 40% ed/15 max damage jewel

maras

5% ll bk

40/15 dungo

20 dex raven

gores

rends

Stats:

str- enough for gear

dex- enough for max block

vita- rest

energy- none

This is just my opinion for this being the best barb for pvm. I know this sounds too cc for many of you. I want to hear other opinions of what is the best barb in pvm and back up your reason.|||Quote:




pvm. I am thinking a griefz and ss barb is best because of 50% dr and 75% block




First 1) One does not need 50%dr or 75%block in pvm.


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ss 40% ed/15 max damage jewel




-> a 40 ed and 15 max damage = bugged anyways...


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maras




why?


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griefz 34%+ ias (I think that hits the break point for ww)




That BP is for paladins. You actually only need 4% ias in order to hit the BP (34%) with a PB. And a second add to that. A zerker is useless for a PvM barb because of the repairs which will annoy you do death.


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5% ll bk




God...why?

Second) The best is relative. And I don't want to explained why because I am tired of it.


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dual wielding has more hits than 2h or single wielding




And you DO not need the block nor the DR%.|||I personally would choose Frenzy Barb or WW barb.

Frenzy: Easy/fun to use, Fast paced, Good weps, Very Very fast attack rate, high speed ( so no 1 point wonders in Increased Stam or Increased Speed ), also very high dmg if your twinked (based upon gear you decided up there I assuming your twinking)

WW: Fun to use, Alot of hits in small amount of time, Helps with leech, Line 'em up and Take 'em out is really easy/super fun.

Honestly I use "PVP" or "PVB" chars for PVM like Smiters. I personally like a Basher (barb with bash as main skill duh) but I am not sure if it truly is PVM. I'm also if a Basher is even an actual build here... I'll check it out later...|||Max block on a non titan barb in pvm.... aside from the gear, i'd say it's all overkill.

While I'm not a fan of barbs aside from goldfind (and not that much even in that case), pvm wise I dual wield weapons. Basically, short of a bvb I would dual wield really as I find the block unnecessary.|||Quote:








That BP is for paladins. You actually only need 4% ias in order to hit the BP (34%) with a PB. And a second add to that. A zerker is useless for a PvM barb because of the repairs which will annoy you do death.




a set of griefzs lasts a hell cs run and can repair on regular town trip.. cheap too 15k if not superior|||As said above DR and block isn't necessary for pvm and you double your dps by dual wielding. WW is better for general pvm than frenzy but obviously some will disagree. I'll never use an end-game weapons with durability again as the repairing drives me mad so griefz is out imo, but it might bother you less.

grief pb x 2 or eBOTDz/Beastz

highlords

fort/enigma/coh

In pvm coh comes close to fort regarding damage output and the res means you can easily hit max res while using guill's face.

dungo/soe

guill's face/arreats with +ed/max/res/ber/whatever

laying of hands

gores

raven + dual leech/AR/res or 2xravens if you go for BOTD

Might merc with andy's or 15ias guill's face, treachery (for laying down decrip faster) and eth shaeled reapers.|||Rawness here is my answer to your questions:

1. To be sturdy as possible. Why do all good fanat zealots have 50% dr and 75% block in pvm?

2. More damage=better and ed jewels are cc for ww barb.

3. Maras>hlords for resist. You want to max out resist anyways.

4. 34% ias is the breakpoint for a barb using zerk. An extra rangeadder=more hits. Never say repair cost is a problem because thats not true. You get enough gold from travs anyways.

5. Bk is very cc for melee builds and even caster builds.

6. Block and dr way to go for best results.

Do you think I am more for pvp or am I too cc for you?

zrk- Thanks for backing me up with post #5.|||1. Apples and oranges. Fanat zealots are stationary while attacking, have a lot less hp and need less dex to reach max block. You'd also be silly not to make use of a pali shield. Except if you plan on playing solo on players 8 without a merc going max block on a WW barb is just going to limit your killing speed.

2. No one questioned this. He was just reminding you not to use a jewel with both +max and ED in your helm.

3. Hlords>Maras for damage. Resists can be found elsewhere.

4. Not true for you maybe. Range isn't really an issue in pvm imo. It comes down to preference.

5. If you're on a budget maybe but it's hardly the "best". You can get more leech, mana leech, AR and resists on a rare.

6. Dual wield for double damage way to go for best results.|||Repairing axes sucks and I'm not the only one who thinks it... Beastz with a Doomz or Griefz offhand is a novelty that gets old very quickly... What's the point of Goldfinding if most of your loot is spent on repairing?



I'm on Team Rawness/ Hubb... Ind or self repair weps... I run Ubers with Grief/ LW PB on my Frenzy barb... No need for life leach with all the life tap... Fade is an added bonus from the LW...|||the usual laying + highlord adds solid fire and light resist already, so maxing out isnt hard


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Repairing axes sucks and I'm not the only one who thinks it... Beastz with a Doomz or Griefz offhand is a novelty that gets old very quickly... What's the point of Goldfinding if most of your loot is spent on repairing?




what are you talking about its cheap.. and dura: you try using ww with a low dura weapon in classic, THERE it runs out fast(1 fpa ww speed ) expansion is very mellow compared to that lol

Hardcore WW Barbarian Help

I am building a WW Barb for my group that plays on Hardcore. There is usually three of us, and we only play LAN so my gear is all luck of the draw, no outside trading. My biggest question is what weapon mastery to go for, I went with mauls for Normal, since they are easy to obtain and you can't really go wrong on Normal. Later on however what should I respec for? Should I tailor my character differently because it's hardcore? If so, how?

All help is appreciated, again my main problem is what weapon type, but any help is useful.|||build around a different skill, concentrate would be my suggestion (though i honestly prefer zerk). what are your teammate's builds? are you going to need to be doing tons of damage or just be able to take it. you also dont really need more than one point into whatever mastery for a good chunk of norm/nightmare so i'd pick 2 or 3 so that if you find a good weapon you can easily swap. after you get some better idea as to what gear you're going to have (late NM, early hell) respec around that.|||Quote:








build around a different skill, concentrate would be my suggestion (though i honestly prefer zerk). what are your teammate's builds? are you going to need to be doing tons of damage or just be able to take it. you also dont really need more than one point into whatever mastery for a good chunk of norm/nightmare so i'd pick 2 or 3 so that if you find a good weapon you can easily swap. after you get some better idea as to what gear you're going to have (late NM, early hell) respec around that.




That is what I was wondering, what weapons should I use as I level up, just whatever comes by? Or should I try to use the same weapons I'll be using later on, like poleaxes or spears. I'm doing WW because it's fun, so I'd rather not switch.

Hello! Erik (Barbarian) needs a respec

Hi!

I've been questing my way thru Nightmare diff with my trusty barbarian, Erik. However, the Monastery is just too difficult, in Hell. I have no idea whether it is skills, stats, gear or just my noobish tactics =(.

Ok, raw statistics now:

Level: 77.

lets use GoMule format:

Strength (N/G)= 165/210

Dexterity = 125/183

Vitality = 150/170

Energy = 30/48

I have no idea why there are points in energy. I don't remember putting them there.

Skillz:

(These are weird.)

Bash: 5

Leap: 1

DSwing: 5

Stun: 6

DThrow: 1

Leap Attack: 1

Concentrate: 13

Frenzy: 1

WW: 1

Berserk:1

(masteries)

Sword: 4

Axe: 6

Mace: 10

Iron Skin: 3

Nat Resist: 9

(warcries)

1 in: well... all of them bar battle command (0)

Find Item (Hork): 3

Battle Orders: 8

For some reason, I started out being a conc barb, changed my mind... around late lvl 50's/60's, realized BO did something... oh yes, built very oddly indeed.

Right... Part 2, Gear.

Helm: 3socketed avenger guard with +2 to concentrate. My only +skill item.

Socketed with a Ptopaz, a Ptopaz and another Ptopaz.

Armour: [Yes, that is how it is spelt in the UK] 3socketed Sharktooth Armour, socketed with a Lem, Ko and a Tir rune (Wealth runeword).

Weapon 1: "Oath" zweihander.

Weapon 2: "Voice of Reason" rune sword.

Gloves: The Immortal King's Forge War Gauntlets.

Belt: Thundergod's Vigor War Belt.

Boots: The Immortal King's Pillar.

Jewellery: odd combination here...

Amulet: (For Magic Finding) Amulet of Luck (+32% MF)

(for killing things) Entropy Scarab Amulet. Which would be

+1 Necro skills

+8 to Energy

+56 to Life

+16 to all resistances

Half freeze duration.

The only two mods of any use are the +life and resists, as I found a:

Raven Frost Ring.

And the other shiny thing on Erik's fingers is a "Rune Turn" ring, providing:

+lightning damage,

+str,

+resist to Cold, Lightning and Fire,

and an additional 10% MF.

On the weapon switch is Earthshaker and Gerke's Sanctuary.

Part 3, LCS

according to it:

Damage (DSwing, after Might from Ilzan and the aura from the wolverine spirit, whatever it does)

between 600 and 1000 from the Oath, and less from the VoR.

Life: 1490 after BO.

That's all that matters really. Ilzan, the mercenary (might aura) has Tal Rasha's helm, Skin of the Flayed One, and Pierre Tombale Couant.

As you have probably guessed, I use the RWM, and I have a little stash in GoMule.

I have most excep set items, and quite a few uniques. My best item find was in Act1 Hell, a Wizardspike from the Blood Moor and an Ohm from the Den of Evil. Oh, runes-wise I have everything from El thru Fal plus an Um, Gul and that Ohm. I have many, many socketed excep items for runewords.

So, what are your suggestions and advice for Erik the Barbarian.

Thanks in advice

Ailelya

*collapses in front of text wall*|||Hi Ailelya, I'm not a barb expert but it seems as if you have spread your points too thinly. I would advise you read a little bit about different builds (concentrate, ww, frenzy etc) and find a good guide for what you think will be the most fun. After you have chosen a build there should be some guides how to spend your points. I would especially advise picking a weapon mastery and don't put points in others. Pick your main combat skill and max it etc, but the guides can direct you further.

I personally have a frenzy barb that is a lot of fun and does well in Hell. Good, detailed guides for this character have been written by Spankeh, Dabeas and Ash, Have a read of them and see if you fancy that. They also have a lot of useful information about what gear is good for barbarians in general.

Regarding equipment, I suggest you invest in better killing/safety equipment. You can trade decent stuff like arreats face, highlords amulet, etc for perfect gems or mid runes like pul-um. Your Ohm rune is worth a lot, if you don't want to use it you should be able to get a lot of good gear for that. Look on the trade forums.|||Your skills happen to be your issue, I would respec the following.

Max Frenzy. Battle Order til about five for now.

Natural Resistance 1 point (1 point in prereq)

Then dump points in frenzy synergies double swing & taunt to boost your damage.

Masteries I would leave about 5-10 points for til you figure out what weapon your going to be using end game + the bonus skill points you will have enough to max it.



Myself personally @ level 85.

I maxed frenzy, double swing, masteries, put one point into natural resist, put about 10 in battle order and started putting the final mastery for frenzy which is Taunt. 10 in B/O is enough for my health bonus so I started adding damage with the final synergy. Berserk IS technically a synergy for frenzy but it is a complete waste of points.

Now take it I got about +8-9 skills off gears & inventory items. You wanna do something along the lines I said above and you will see a HUGE improvement.|||Hi!

Thanks for your input. Frenzy seems to be the one to go for.

I have signed up for the trade forum and intend to trade away that Um rune for a spangly new IK's armour. I found the belt yesterday.

What about my stats? I find I die way too often, and I was wondering if this has anything to do with my quite low (by comparison) vitality, and high dex for greater attack rating.

Thanks

Ailelya|||You should only have enough strength and Dex to use your equipment (Including what your equipment gives you). Rest goes in Vitality. If I wanted to do blocking I'd make a Zealot Paladin.

Since you seem to have almost completed the IK set, why not get the weapon and Helm from that set as well? The bonuses are pretty good. 2 handed weapon means you'll have to make a Whirlwind barb though (nothing wrong with that!). A really good thing about the weapon from this set is it has NO dex requirement, so you get extra points for Strength/Vitality. Also it's the longest range Mace in the game.

Do you have much Life Leech? That's really important to have.

Are you thinking before you rush into that pack of extra strong, mana burn, cursed monsters? Remembering you can't leech from skeletons? Barbarian is surprisingly strategic, more so than a lot of characters.

You should have BO on at all times, I find it's a pain to remember to recast, but when I forget, I die. There's obviously a connection there!|||IK set is solid to roll without however like said in the previous post, to complete the set requires use of the 2 hand weapon which converts you from frenzy to ww. Using the set and staying frenzy just not using the IK weapon is still a good idea vs what you currently have. As frenzy you should be looking for some life steal items.

You should only have enough str and dex to match your gear requirements. Everything else goes to vit, you should try to pick up some ar charms via trade section to solve your ar issue. Try to grab a metalgrid if you can, serious ar increase. The price tag on them are kinda sticky but you might be able to swing a deal.|||I used to have loads of life leech, from dual Aldur's Rhythms - using double swing back then. Probably why I die so much nowadays.

I know Frenzy takes up quite some mana when used (3-ish) but when using dswing I never cared at all about those mana burn bosses. With my points in Concentrate, i could use that with the IK's SC, and i loved the idea that you could smack something and nothing could hit you back. Would Concentrate be the best choice for 2h weapons? Before the Aldur's I was using a tabar which was fine, but didn't hit often. I'll do my best to pick up all the charms that drop now.

I have applied for the IK's hat and armour from a giveaway but haven't had anything back to me yet. My Um will buy me the armour and if I don't get the rest of the set for free I have millions upon millions of pgems.

Two skills I have considered:

What about Berserk? It's good for PIs. though the elemental damage on the IK maul should solve that

On a mad note: What about DThrow? I have the Scalper.|||Berserk is a 1 point wonder, it can't deal with groups efficiently but it's good for the odd PI.

Concentrate also can't deal with groups well.

Frenzy is alright but needs 2 weapons.

Just go whirlwind, it's popular because it's good.|||Berserk is an epic skill to use with a two-handed sword and imo out-damages whirlwind in party play (i.e. when not soloing) but requires good gear. And a party to back you up. So just one point into that for you.

Using the IK set with whirlwind is a good option for a beginner. If I were you though I'd use the gul to trade for 3 or 4 mals and make myself 2 Oaths and a Gloom (armor). A small crescent (axe) is a nice base for Oath and will out-damage the IK set by quite a bit. Gloom (fal-um-pal) in a good base (like archon plate or wire fleece) has over 1500 defense and 45 all resist. Smoke and Treachery are other (cheaper) armor options but they lack in defense. A step up from these is 2 Grief swords and a Fortitude but for that you need 3 Lo and 2 Mal runes.

Thundergod's is a great belt and you can keep the raven. On the second ring you should look for mana and life leech and +attack rating, and resists are a nice bonus. You be able to get Laying of Hands (gloves) for pgems. As mentioned above the other things you should be looking for are Arreat's Face, Highlord's (amulet) and Gore Rider's (boots).|||Ok.

Thanks for all input but in the end, I got the IK set for free!

I have respecced.

The first time I did it I put 94 in dex, for the highest thing I had on, then thought... hmmm... shift-click adds five each click, right? Shift-clicked vit. I then had 415 in vit. ARRGGH. That required a minimize-to-desktop and an "end task" to put right. Glad I didn't press esc.

Went back into the game and all was fine. pheww. re-respecced and now have:

Clvl 79 (gone up a bit!)

Str - 237 after gear

Dex - 94

Vit -197 from memory

Energy -zilch.

I have maxed Concentrate and Mace Mastery

Have 1point wonders in sword mastery, berserk, whirlwind and prereqs.

8 or so in BOrders brings it up to 15 with gear. thank you IK

Got a few in Iron Skin and Nat Resist [enuff to have 75 to all resists]

Damage - 3100 to 5600 after Ilzan's Might aura

AR - 10001

Def Rating - much

Killing speed is infinitely faster now. Have 1 in berserk but it isn't really needed thanks to masses of elemental damage. Concentrate works well on group as while hitting one thing immense defense rating means nothing else hits me. Andariel was easy as hell! Going into the Arcane Sanctuary tonight or tomorrow.

I never liked the idea of whirlwind - I've tested it and I just don't like it. Feels unsafe or something.

@hubb if you didn't read the top bit I have an oath already. And I have never heard of a pal rune. Did you mean pul?

Thanks to all

-[F]Ailelya